Comments on AverageBro.com: The Problem With... Sarah Heath Palin.

[quote]Of course politics is a team sport. why do ...

2009-11-19T20:41:35.732-05:00

[quote]Of course politics is a team sport. why do you think political parties exist in the first place? As social clubs for old white men?[/quote]

Indeed the "American Political Domain" is a "team sport".

My challenge is that people have convinced our people that success in that particular domain will compensate for the Black Establishment's failure to build up the structure in the "Black Community Cultural Consciousness Domain".

Thus my argument is that it is insane for someone to put the "team sport" head of this community domain and then look past the fact that they ALREADY have an entire band of favorable people running their community and instead of calling them into account they'd rather work to make sure the "team" expands more in other areas. The hope is that with the national take over....the promised benefits from the "LOCAL TAKE OVER" will finally come through.

@ Spool: I was never entirely on board with the w...

2009-11-19T20:36:34.887-05:00

@ Spool:

I was never entirely on board with the whole carpetbagging thing.

Okay, honest truth. I was pretty damned uncomfortable about it. But hey---I was 18 and about to vote for the first time in my life. Why spoil a good party with one's own nagging insecurities? (snicker)

Anyway, that's not really the same thing that just happened up in the good old Adirondack Region. Though if you want to counter that what Hillary pulled was worse, well----I won't really be able to argue back with a straight face. XP

@ Derek:

That's exactly why I've become weary of even having political parties in the first place. George Washington didn't think we should have them. I've come to think he was right.

Hillary won, Hoffman lost. Regardless of whether b...

2009-11-19T18:26:43.402-05:00

Hillary won, Hoffman lost. Regardless of whether both were carpetbaggers, one of them definitely fucked up.

@ constructive feedback

Of course politics is a team sport. why do you think political parties exist in the first place? As social clubs for old white men?

@Marbles: It's how both parties work, all the tim...

2009-11-19T15:40:43.198-05:00

@Marbles:

It's how both parties work, all the time. You think this is the first time a Representative has parachuted into a New York district and tried to take over?

Must have never heard of this one chick called Hillary, I guess...

@ Constructive: "Thus I struggle to see how you a...

2009-11-19T13:10:00.473-05:00

@ Constructive:

"Thus I struggle to see how you and others are focusing more about the REPRESENTATIVE of the "NY 23rd District"; a place that you don't live..."

You're looking at it backwards.

What a lot of people resent is the meddling from outsiders into their district's affairs. Especially when the meddling in question is of such a raw, ideological nature. These people are trying to play Whack-A-Mole with politicians they don't like all over the country, and it's an ugly sight.

I almost bought the book as well, sir. I had to st...

2009-11-19T10:07:07.937-05:00

I almost bought the book as well, sir. I had to stop myself from doing so.

And anytime the spirit moves you to write about sports, we'll free up another guest-spot for ya on ETSF. No worries, my brotha.

[quote]Palin's most recent accomplishment is endor...

2009-11-19T09:00:32.655-05:00

[quote]Palin's most recent accomplishment is endorsing a candidate in new york's 23rd congressional district and the district subsequently going democrat for the first time in over a century. Hell, was she even asked to campaign in Virginia or New Jersey? She's pretty much irrelevant and her numbers speak for themselves.[/quote]

Derek:

I had been disturbed to notice how on the one hand "Entertainment Tonight" had creeped into the "Political News" domain and how the nightly news has creeped into the entertainment domain. Sadly it is clear that it is the VIEWING AUDIENCE that has hastened this per their appetite.

Thus I struggle to see how you and others are focusing more about the REPRESENTATIVE of the "NY 23rd District"; a place that you don't live - yet trying to get people to focus upon the happenings in their own district is quite a chore.

My conclusion is that for too many people and especially Black people - POLITICS is no longer about focused "Political Activism". Instead it has become about personalities and the "Team Sport" milieu.

Even if your own permanent interests have not been addressed - one must 'Not allow the other team to gain any ground'.

The stunning fact that one group of voters in New Jersey had been frustrated about the incumbent governor and thus he lost their support because of the results he rendered. In another group of voters - they still supported him to the tune of 90% because they did not want the other team to gain despite their economic interests having been undercut.

Many of them voted "NO" by staying home rather than voting for the other team.

[quote]She just happened to be in the right place ...

2009-11-19T08:52:53.709-05:00

[quote]She just happened to be in the right place at the right time when the right is searching for that next great something, and they are willing to believe whatever comes out of her mouth. But at some point, they will grow tired of her and move on.[/quote]

Stunning analysis.

"Yes we can" move on.

[quote]I agree about Levi Johnston, although I thi...

2009-11-19T08:51:00.324-05:00

[quote]I agree about Levi Johnston, although I think he's more dumb than an asshole. He's got a baby with Bristol, they're broken up, and he keeps getting on TV bashing her mom and dad.[/quote]

Antonio:

Do you notice when it comes to IGNORANT elements in Hip Hop the blame is put upon the MUSIC COMPANIES and the "White Record Executives" that green light it but fail to allow "Common" on the air?

Yet you appear to be focusing on Levi but not the venues that are having them on......and their AGENDA for doing so.

Why the misalignment?

less vile? That's only because I haven't posted ye...

2009-11-18T22:34:57.042-05:00

less vile? That's only because I haven't posted yet. In all seriousness though, there isn't a whole lot to say. Palin's most recent accomplishment is endorsing a candidate in new york's 23rd congressional district and the district subsequently going democrat for the first time in over a century. Hell, was she even asked to campaign in Virginia or New Jersey? She's pretty much irrelevant and her numbers speak for themselves. Right now she's no different from balloon boy's parents or jon and kate

@ Spool Can you fault a latte for leisurely readi...

2009-11-18T17:39:56.297-05:00

@ Spool

Can you fault a latte for leisurely reading at the check out line? If it's not Angelina vs. Jennifer than it's Sexy Sarah vs. Dimwit Levi. Frankly, I enjoy the latter.

While I'm a fan of neither Ms. Sarah or Levi I still tend to feel more sorry for him. He does have a son in all of this mess. And you can't fault him for speaking out.

And he doesn't look bad photographed in black and white either. A little duct tape over his mouth and he'd be quite acceptable in dim lighting. Just kidding. :-)

Wow, the comments here were much less vile than I ...

2009-11-18T17:12:40.061-05:00

Wow, the comments here were much less vile than I expected.

Can I lol a bit at vlatte for being up on the supermarket checkout lane details involving Palin?

lolol!

We are all probably clueless for paying this twit ...

2009-11-18T15:51:03.009-05:00

We are all probably clueless for paying this twit too much attention.

[quote]I mean as much as we clown people like Cond...

2009-11-18T15:38:25.254-05:00

[quote]I mean as much as we clown people like Condi or even Clarence Thomas, these people are still worth their salt and more or less qualified for their positions.[/quote]

Uppity Negro:

Do you notice that Black Quasi-Socialist Progressive-Fundamentalist Racism Chasers (my more functionally descriptive label for "Black Progressives) always seem to "Look past LOCAL DEMOCRATS" that are in power over their community and yet fail them as they seek to "Keep The NATIONAL REPUBLICANS on trial"?

Seriously as we look at the places which have the highest concentrations of Black people - WHEN was the last time the COMPETENCY of any of the Democrats and/or Black Elected officials was PUT ON TRIAL?

Here are now 10,000 or 16,000 Black Elected officials (depending on how you count them) WHY is it that the bulk of the criticism is placed upon TWO PEOPLE WHO AREN'T EVEN IN ELECTED positions?

The Black community is infested with IDEOLOGICAL BIGOTRY to our own detriment.

Average Brother: (And I am attempting to avoid th...

2009-11-18T15:28:17.295-05:00

Average Brother:

(And I am attempting to avoid the assumption that your blog is focused upon the Black Community's permanent interests when I ask you this question)

I have a question for you:

WHY is there such a lust amongst Black people to go after (apparently) threatening conservative/Republican figures like Sarah Palin.......all the while so many of our communities are smoldering despite the fact that there are no "Sarah Palin-types" in charge of the places where our people living in our highest concentrations? In fact people who Blacks have popularly elected control all of these institutions already and STILL we grieve.

The short question that I have for you AverageBro is "Do you see a threat to our community's PERMANENT INTERESTS when African-Americans use their POLITICAL ADVOCACY that once was used to obtain our basic freedoms yet now it is used as a full player in the game of 'ideological football' that Malcolm X told us about more than 45 years ago?"

More than limiting our participation in and support of the popular party and ideology to the extent that IT advances our community in measurable ways - we have now dressed in the full uniforms of one of these said teams and work to preemptively thwart both its ownership of a team and a star recruit who just released a book and is preparing to go to training camp.

WHAT about the cost that have been rendered to us after having departed from our prior focus upon the core plot of land that we initially entered the fray to advance our cause? The enemy team has been purged and yet our future success remains in question.

Isn't a "Sellout" by any other name still inclined to put their prime focus on an entity that is not of their own?"

@ Daedalus: C'mon man---can't you ever make a poi...

2009-11-18T13:39:26.329-05:00

@ Daedalus:

C'mon man---can't you ever make a point without dredging up some straw man that most people around here don't even buy into in the first place? Who around here is gullible enough to fall for Palin's brand of cheap rhetoric as long as it's in "minority" dressing?

And before you say Obama----come on. Really? Are you really going to compare the two? The experience thing is perhaps at least somewhat arguable, but everything else? Come on.

@ AB:

"I read "Goodnight Moon" to my kids each night"

Aw. ;}

She's average. I mean as much as we clown people ...

2009-11-18T12:27:48.022-05:00

She's average.

I mean as much as we clown people like Condi or even Clarence Thomas, these people are still worth their salt and more or less qualified for their positions.

I personally think that G.W. Bush was somewhere under the curve, but he did have enough wherewithal to surround himself with qualified people.

This chick heah tho...

She's beneath Bush simply because she doesn't even have the political capital that Bush did. As many flubs as Bush made, at least he had enough going for him that got him re-elected--whatever that is. But this chick heah--nah, she's not an undercover Rhodes' scholar, her fame is more an indictment of our society that supports bullshit like hers. There's nothing novel about it. Take the love affair we have with the averageness of hiphop--that's more society than it is the actual hip hop.

Moreover, as the constant refrain you had in this post, it's about "get money" and in a capitalist and consumerist society, you do whatchu gotta do.

No, she's not smarter than we thought. She is a c...

2009-11-18T12:26:39.247-05:00

No, she's not smarter than we thought. She is a complete and total idiot who has a business manager/agent and a publicist who are helping her make as much bank as she possibly can. It's called SHOW BUSINESS. Dumb people get rich all the time.

@Big K:

"It's not that Palin is smarter than we thought, it's that most of the people who are fans of her are stupider than we thought."

Co-sign LOL.

I am still shaking my head at her meteoric rise to...

2009-11-18T12:21:24.807-05:00

I am still shaking my head at her meteoric rise to fame. How can so many people get sucked in by her foolishness. But I think her success was hapless; she just wondered into it. She just happened to be in the right place at the right time when the right is searching for that next great something, and they are willing to believe whatever comes out of her mouth. But at some point, they will grow tired of her and move on.

And as OneChele said, I ain't mad at her. Not one bit. She saw an opportunity and she took it.

Ok AB, I actually meant the "dirt" she's throwin...

2009-11-18T12:12:51.453-05:00

Ok AB,

I actually meant the "dirt" she's throwing about everyone else, including the people who GAVE her the national platform that she has now. She is constantly talking greasy about them, when her silly ass claims are easily disproved.

BUT...timing is important. Levi has been saying for a while now that she has been keeping him from the baby, basically right after the baby was born. He only just now starting a media blitz with that information. If SHE hadn't tossed him aside once he'd served his purpose, then HE probably woouldn't be all over the place right now.

I don't think she's dumb but I wouldn't ask her to...

2009-11-18T11:49:28.041-05:00

I don't think she's dumb but I wouldn't ask her to assist in a constitutional debate either. I think she took an opportunity to get her hustle on (thanks McCain) and ran with it. Really don't like the woman but she took the one (and only) chance to get $$$$ and capitalized.

Just like Miss Sarah didn't give a thought to how ...

2009-11-18T11:40:55.527-05:00

Just like Miss Sarah didn't give a thought to how running for vp was gonna affect her fam.

He has no high school diploma, and other than bein...

2009-11-18T11:39:49.214-05:00

He has no high school diploma, and other than being Bristol's babbydaddy no real prospects. She is the adult. I fault her more than I fault him.

@ I.L.L./Rory/CiCi I can't believe I'm defending ...

2009-11-18T11:38:50.284-05:00

@ I.L.L./Rory/CiCi

I can't believe I'm defending Miss Sarah, but c'mon, how exactly has she lied on him? If nothing else, this seems like the rare instance in which she's actually taken the high road. Meanwhile, this ingrate can't stay off TV talking sideways about his baby mama's family.

Politricks aside, if this guy was your cousin, you'd probably wanna thump him upside the head.

Believe me, I am the last person to stand up for Miss Sarah's honor, but she's right on this one. That guy's a jackass who is giving no thought to how all these shenanigans are going to effect his relationship with his kid.

@AB, "Call me crazy, but a lot of the "dirt" he's...

2009-11-18T11:31:59.964-05:00

@AB,

"Call me crazy, but a lot of the "dirt" he's airing just seems trivial, unprovable, and silly. Palin is right in this regard."

Just like all the "dirt" Palin is airing, right? Yeah.