You and I both knew it would only be a matter of time before the GOP's real leaders handed poor Michael Steele his a$$ on a platter. This weekend, Steele appeared on CNN's DL Hughley Breaks The News, a show I didn't even realize had made it beyond the Obama election. Anyways, DL sorta walked Steele right into this one, and Mike, perhaps having a barbershop k-nowledge moment, took the bait.
To be honest, I don't really see anything wrong with what Steele said. He was asked a basic question, he gave an honest answer. We all know Limbaugh, Coulter, Hannity, etc. are little more than well paid non-union actors, but hearing it from the GOP's H.N.I.C. gives it a bit more levity I suppose.
And just as quick as you can say "Drop Squad", the GOP's H.W.I.C. just delivered the smackdown.
Talk radio host Rush Limbaugh fired back at Republican National Committee Chairman Michael Steele Monday, suggesting on his radio show the GOP leader appears to be supporting President Obama and House Speaker Nancy Pelosi.Here's the audio of Rush putting Steele back in his place.
"Why do you claim to lead the Republican Party when you seem obsessed with seeing to it President Obama succeeds?" Limbaugh addressed Steele.
"I frankly am stunned that the chairman of the Republican National Committee endorses such an agenda. I have to conclude that he does because he attacks me for wanting it to fail," said Limbaugh.
Late last week, Steele told CNN's D.L. Hughley that Limbaugh is an "entertainer" whose comments are "ugly."
Also on his radio program Monday, Limbaugh said Steele is being used by the "liberal media."
"Michael Steele has been around long enough to know that the liberal media will use him by twisting what I say or what others say," he said. "He took the bait, he bit down hard on the bait, he launched an attack on me, even though the premise of what was said to him was false."
“The Republican National Committee and Michael Steele need a little leadership … we’re going to have to drag them kicking and screaming back to our core,” Limbaugh said. “They are caught up in so much fear because of where they live and work in Washington, DC,” he said.
Responding to Steele’s argument that he is the “de facto” head of the GOP, Limbaugh warned: “Michael Steele — you are head of the RNC — you are not head of the Republican Party.” Limbaugh went on to say Steele would have to become President for that to happen. He also noted: “… I’m not in charge of the Republican Party, and I don’t want to be.”
“Steele is playing with fire,” said one longtime Republican adviser close to House Republicans and both Bush families. Of concern is that Steele, the party’s first black chairman, will be attacked by Limbaugh and other talk show hosts, further splitting the party…
Republicans are concerned that a feud between the national party and conservative talk radio would upset donors, who would stop giving to the party. “One possible outcome is that giving by the base, sickly for the last few years, could get even worse,” said a key GOP donor. Steele’s supporters, however, say that he is not trying to pick a fight with conservative radio and is just trying to counter Democratic charges that Limbaugh—who has engaged in a verbal war with President Obama—is the de facto boss of the party. He is also trying to put the word out there that the GOP is open to other viewpoints.
So, in less than a month on the gig, Steele's already pissed off party leadership. The very same folks who said they admired him as a true Conservative, and proof that "not all blacks are bad, just Obama" are now calling him a RINO, and in some cases, asking him to step down as party Chair. No, seriously. Laura Ingraham called him out, the conservative blogs are turning on him, and I'm sure even our resident GOP Stan is about to introduce Mr. Steele to the bottom of the bus. This was all very predictable, and its also sorta sad.
On a somewhat related note, I wonder if this is what Obama had in mind when he threw Limbaugh's name out there a month or so ago upon his first meeting with GOP leaders as Prez. By publicly (it was a private meeting, but you know Boehner and Co. were Twittering 10 mins later) calling out such a pariah as Limbaugh, Barry made the GOP react. They could draw a line in the sand and face Limbaugh wrath, or they could stick with him and dead any illusion of inclusion and progress they're aiming for in 2012. Classic jack move, Barry. Divide and conquer.
I wish Steele the best. He's a bright guy who actually seems true in his convictions and genuinely determined the expand the scope of his faltering party. But something tells me he's about to get the JC Watts Treatment real soon, and it won't be pretty. I told ya'll this would end badly. And it shall.
They always love you, so long as you stay in your lane.
Update: Steele predictably backpedals like Troy Polamalu. Rush called and said, "Kiss my panky rang, beey*tch!" So much for that whole H.N.I.C. thing. Grow a pair, Mike, seriously. Bad look.
Question: Did Steele have any choice but to stand up to Rush? Has he likely blown any chance he had to making real progress within his party?
Limbaugh fires back at Steele [CNN]
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Steele did what he had to do. Limbaugh is doing what he likes to do. If present demographic and economic trends continue, the Republican Party could be marginalized for decades. I don't think Republicans quite get that yet. Short term though this will hurt Steele as he has nowhere near the pull with the base that Limbaugh does.
If Limbaugh cared more about the Republican brand than his own ego, he would have just shut up, let Steele issue some sort of "clarification" and not said anything about it.
Fortunately that's not Rush. I hope this sets off more Republican backbiting and infighting.
As I said here at the time, it was Obama's intention - a page taken from Saul Alinsky's Rules for Radicals, the book Obama used as his guide for how to organize a community. Alinsky founded the school Obama went to for his training as an organizer.
It's Rule 12, for the curious.
And no, I'm behind Steele in this fight, though I sorta see where Limbaugh is coming from... he risks marginalization in the future, and that is bad for his job.
BUt my question is this. If Republicans are all about the country succeeding why do they want Obama to fail as president? Woudn't that cause the country to fail as well? Wouldn't you want the country that you claim to love so much to do better? To get out of this recession we're in? WTF? This is the very reason why I hate politics.
@ MissJay,
Sadly politics is like that on both sides. this isn't a republican thing only. The republicans want Obama to fail just as much as the democrats wanted Bush and Reagan to fail.
A friend and I were talking about this today and concluded that politics is much more about a competition than about actual progress. Each side want to bash the other side (regardless if the idea is good or not) until they get power. "Working together" is a thing of the past...
Well, no. Obama is not the country... this is sort of the essence of conservativatism. We believe our problems are best solved when government is minimized...
There's plenty of economic theory leading to the conclusion that Obama is going to make things worse, because he has the wrong ideas about how to fix things. Wanting the wrong idea to fail isn't wrong or bad.
Moreover, some of our best times in the last quarter century were under Clinton during the Republican Revolution of 1994. In an earlier thread someone said Clinton was a fiscal conservative... that's just wrong. It was his need to wrangle with a very conservative House of Reps that finally brought the budget under control.
It's definitely possible to want Obama's policies to fail because you love the nation and believe his success will make it worse.
Fact of the matter is that if Republicans (or any political party) is taking their cues from the news media then we're in trouble as a country and it may end up sounding a death knell for the future of the Republican party.
By in large, I would bet, younger Republicans aren't quite as rabid as their parents and people from a Rush Limbaugh/Sean Hannity generation (although there are exceptions like Elisabeth Hasselbeck) and that type of rhetoric isn't helpful for anyone. Seriously no one posts the numbers that Limbaugh does and has over the years.
Q1: Michael Steele would have been branded the new Clarence Thomas if he didn't stand up to Rush Limbaugh, and moreover I would flat out called him a wimp if he just let the man take over his hard earned spot light as RNC Chairman. Hell, I woulda fought on Steele's side just to make Limbaugh respect the position of chairman.
Q2: No he hasn't blown any chance, but he needs to be VERY careful about what events and what venues he shows up. What he needs to do is take a page from Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton and start holding random ass press conferences. Or better yet, the two minute speech that the 14 year old boy gave is what he needs to just repeat over and over.
He needs to get a Republican checklist of stuff that Republicans claim to stand for: smaller government, fiscal conservatism, tax breaks etc. and when Obama goes against them, he needs to filter it through them and come out against them. Also, he needs to call up that other HNIC of the Democratic party and tell the rest of A-merry-ca to kiss his black @$$ and have a big public meeting and just have some sections of white America collectively mess their pants.
I just think Steele needs to open up a big can of whoop ass and take names and make folk respect him. He just comes off as too wimpy. He's Republican enough that if the party got behind McCain both before and after Palin, they can get behind him.
In short, he needs to CYIN and say "LOOK AND LIVE BITCHES" and be about his biz.
Another reason while this philosophical conservative cannot join the Republican Party: bombast and drama.
While the President's economic strategy has little historical basis for success, it's the obligation of those who disagree to seek change responsibly and rationally. If you want rational Republicans check out Paul Ryan; entertainers like Limbaugh and Coulter, in spite of the reason behind their arguments, frack things up with their zealotry. I certainly don't want another 4 years of Obama-bashing the way we had 8 years of Bush-bashing; it's crude, ignorant, and gets us nowhere.
@ Adinasi
"Another reason why this philosophical conservative cannot join the Republican Party: bombast and drama."
That's why my husband, a former moderate republican, washed his hands of the party years ago. The principals are sound but the key players are not. He does not associate with that party at all any more. And he's disgusted with the way they treat their own (i.e. Ron Paul). Paul is labeled a "kook" within his own party...oddly enough, he's one of the few that truly understands economics in either party (he has studied economics and written at least 3 books on the subject).
Oh well, I think many non Republicans embrace conservative values but have no party to identify with at this point.
Rush Linbaugh is a mean, unhappy, drug addicted, over weight douche bag...and proud of it. He spews hatred, division, racism, bigotry, and erroneous info. The more people listen and promote his ideas the deeper the shyte to climb out of becomes.
This is why the Republican party will never be able to be as inclusive as the Democratic party. Assholes like Limbaugh spew so much hate and venom that the party's real message never gets a chance to be heard in a non bias climate. Brothers like J.C. Watts, who a lot of people in both parties liked and respected, was never able to excel because his preceived "radical" ideas weren't tolerated by the powers that be. The Right Wing Media and its talking heads.
They can claim all they want that Limbaugh isn't the leader of the party but when you constantly put this guy on a pedestal and allow him to be the centerpiece and keynote speaker at party conventions thats really sends a mixed message.
“Michael Steele — you are head of the RNC — you are not head of the Republican Party.” Damn talk about no vasiline. It's statements like this that make you wonder; if he's not the leader than who is Rush?
The sad thing is that if played right the republican party had a real shot at attracting some real minority support with Steele at the helm. Its no secret that a lot of the conservative party's view points and ideals jive right along with a lot of black church folks ideals. That's a yet untapped market for the conservatives that could have done them loads of good in the next election. Oh well I guess we can rejoice in the fact that Our president is an educated black man with a plan to change the country for good while being inclusive of everyone.
LIMBAUGH: Embargo, on!
STEELE: For God's sake, what now?
LIMBAUGH: Who run Bartertown? Say loud.
STEELE: Limbaugh runs Bartertown.
Dok wrote...
" The republicans want Obama to fail just as much as the democrats wanted Bush and Reagan to fail."
Reagan and Bush DID fail. Republican policies of lowering taxes on the wealthy and deregulation have gotten us into this mess
- Bob
lol, yeah Reagan was a failure. Things were so much worse when he left office than they were when he took over from Carter...
*snicker*
You guys are hilarious sometimes. :)
@Vanilla Latte:
"Oh well, I think many non Republicans embrace conservative values but have no party to identify with at this point."
You are absolutely right. Plus many Republicans embrace conservative values but have no party to identify with at this point. It just sucks to have people like Rush around - who listens to this guy?
@spool
No Obama is not the country but does he not represent the country? Is he not the President? Who wants the President to fail at leading the country? You know what....that was a dumb question. Because more and more I have to agree with Dok, it's not about making the country better because no one wants to put their pride aside and work together. And by no one I mean both parties, Dems and Repubs.
@Bob
you do realize that the democrats were for deregulation as well and had a chance to stop it, right? Come on man, do some research. did you not notice the deregulation under the Clinton administration?
@Chester
"Plus many Republicans embrace conservative values but have no party to identify with at this point."
Good point.
And I don't listen to talk radio (left or right)...but obviously Rush's numbers/ratings are huge. I just can't imagine listening to such nastiness and absorbing that kind of negativity every day.
Spool,
Well, let's look at the record:
Reagan ballooned the deficit big time. Income inequality increased a great deal more compared with Carter.
I know you GOP folks love to tout about how Reagan was good for the economy, but on a per year basis, fewer jobs were created in his presidency than much maligned Jimmy Carter's tenure. Don't forget, a lot of the credit for stopping inflation actually goes to Paul Volker, who tighted up credit - which help make things tough for Carter politically, but things eased up just in time for Ronnie to take credit for it and get reeelected.
Not to mention the less pleasant trends of watered down civil rights enforcement, workplace safety enforcement, and letting the bankers go wild and costing the taxpayers mucho bucks - the S&L failures.
Rush called and said, "Kiss my panky rang, beey*tch!"
I seriously LOL'd for 5 mins.
If the parties worked this hard at ideas and fixing old and decaying infrastructure, the US wouldn't even have an economic downturn.
I disagree with how the money is being spent. We have highways, roads, bridges, airports, train stations, sea ports, etc. that need replacement. This isn't rocket science.
Now this loser Limbaugh wants to debate the POTUS? WTF? He's not running a campaign he's running the damn country! I hope Pres. Obama says nothing, and that he minimizes this turd's very existence by ignoring his existence.
Go ahead Limbaugh- get the 'Rush' you crave for and aje a few extra Percs...
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