Wednesday, July 9, 2008

C.Y.I.N. Case Study: Jesse Jackson = Young Buck!?!

It's pretty hard to size up this "breaking news" story without getting the full context of what Jesse allegedly said. But since the Internet's goin' nuts, I guess I should weigh in.

Jesse Jackson would like to tell Barack Obama that he is sorry for ripping the presumptive Democratic Nominee with comments that are said to be very nasty and according to a report from CNN they are too bad for them to say on the air. One report notes that conservative radio host Sean Hannity revealed on air that that Fox News is in possession of an exclusive tape of Reverend Jesse Jackson, recorded after an interview when he thought the microphone was off, slamming Barack Obama for “talking down black people on matters of faith” among other issues.

Jackson told CNN that the interview had wrapped up and he didn’t realize his remarks were captured by a “hot” microphone. In a helpful tip to folks like Jesse Jackson that they might want to understand that all microphones are live and hot and all cell phone have cameras and video.

"Barack, he's talking down to black people," Jackson said in a short clip the network aired this afternoon on "Special Report with Brit Hume."

Hume reported that Jackson also "threatened to cut off a certain part of Obama's anatomy."
Here's the offensive comment.

And here's Jesse's "apology". I haven't seen this sorta clumsy backpedaling since that one season Prime Time suited up for the Skins.

I'm sure you guys are looking for me to bash Jesse as being some obsolete relic of the Civil Rights era, but really, what's the point? The man's already done enough harm to his own reputation. He doesn't need my help.

And besides, he's completely and totally entitled to his opinion, just like anyone else who thinks Obama should be talking more about the "issues of Black America". I don't particularly agree with his assertion, as anyone who's been here for some time knows, but Jesse's done more than enough in his lifetime to earn the right to speak his mind. I'll vouch for him on that one.

If nothing else, I'm disappointed that he for some reason thought he had to apologize. Andrew Young said some pretty greasy stuff about Obama a few months back, and I don't think dude ever bothered sending calla lilies and a card reading "I'm so sorry".[1]

Andrew Young's Thug Thizzle > Jesse Jackson's Tapdancing.

T(r)avis Smiley's Crabs >>> Jesse Jackson's Tapdancing.

AB Banning Bamas From The Comment Boards >>>>> Jesse Jackson's Tapdancing.

True Hateration means never having to say you're sorry.

I mean seriously, why is dude channelling Young Buck all of a sudden?

"A Nigga just get confused." Classic.

Young Buck Cryin' To 50 = Jesse Jackson's Tapdancing.

If that's what you meant, stand by your words! I'd have more respect from him if he just came out and was like "Yeah that's right, I said it! So what you beige punk, you wanna make somethin' of it? Come on! Let's roll!"

But he had to apologize. Why?

Sadly enough, even Jesse Jr. (who's a co-chair for the Obama campaign) jumped in the fray, throwing his own Daddy under Barry-4-Prez the bus. Huh?
His comments triggered condemnation from an unexpected source: Rep. Jesse L. Jackson Jr. (D-Ill.), Jackson's son.

In a statement released by his office, Jackson Jr. said he was "deeply outraged and disappointed in Rev. Jackson's reckless statements about Sen. Barack Obama."

"His divisive and demeaning comments about the presumptive Democratic nominee -- and I believe the next president of the United States -- contradict his inspiring and courageous career," the congressman said.

"Rev. Jackson is my dad and I'll always love him," he said. "He should know how hard that I've worked for the last year and a half as a national co-chair of Barack Obama's presidential campaign. So I thoroughly reject and repudiate his ugly rhetoric. He should keep hope alive and any personal attacks and insults to himself."
What the hell is wrong with this Negro? I wouldn't throw my Pops under nobody's Greyhound. Bump dat' Jesse Jr.! That's some ole' bullsh*t!

I'm sure the d-bags at Fox News (what the hell was Jesse doing over there in the first place?) will have a field day with this one, and point at it as more evidence that Obama is out of touch with the AverageBro. But let's not forget, these are the same d-bags who were referring to Michelle-O as a "baby mama" just a few weeks ago.

Spare us the drama guys, we know you don't care about us.

The more I think about it, the more I'm wondering if this whole thing wasn't orchestrated on some level, just like my tin-foil hat musings theory about Rebb'n Wright's comedy routine at the Press Club a few months back. Both incidents give Obama a clearcut opportunity to kick some member of the Whitey-scaring old guard (Farrakhan, Wright, Pfleger, Al, Jesse) to the proverbial curb, thus eliminating them as debate fodder.

These folks have run a relatively flawless campaign that's on the verge of selling a biracial Junior Senator as the POTUS. Would you really put this past them?

I'm just sayin'. Think about it.

Question: Did Jesse owe Obama an apology? Is Jesse Jr waaay outta pocket for puttin' his Pops on blast publicly? Is my conspiracy theory too far out there? Just how disturbed were you by that Young Buck/50 Cent audio?

Jesse Jackson Tape: Open Mic Catches Audio of Disparaging Obama Remarks [National Ledger]

Jesse Jackson Jr.: Jesse Jackson Sucks At Life [Wonkette]

Previous Editions of C.Y.I.N. Case Study []

[1] Oh. I guess that's just my thing.

30 AverageComments™:

Brown Man said...

Just when you think the shit we've seen this year can't be topped...

...a Negro has to jump right up and prove you wrong.

Jessie's my homeboy, but damn, Jessie - this is harder on you than it is on the O-man.

Jazzy said...

I am so sick and tired of people apologizing left and right. Jesse like Rev. Wright should learn when to hold ‘em and when to fold ‘em. I agree with you 100 AB if you said it then man up and own it.

ebw-educated black woman said...

Again, I am not surprised. Jesse has been talking greasy about Obama all along. Jesse, Bob Johnson, Andy Young...Haters all. SMH.

myvoicedc said...

Video of Jesse's full press conference:

Leslie D. Callahan said...

I am so agreeing with you about Jesse Jr.'s comments. There is nothing worse than observing inter-familial conflict in this kind of way. It also seemed gratuitous since Jesse had already apologized. Whatever the Congressman felt he had to say to his dad on the phone, to speak of his father (on whose coattails and name he originally rode into Congress) in such a dismissive, belligerent, and fundamentally disrepectful way was way off.

Sure Jesse should know better than to be talking out of his behind in space where the mic might be on. But wow!

Brown Man said...

On a positive note:

If Katt Williams is correct, then Obama is doing alright - "'cause you need haters."

"if you got ten haters, then you need to be up to twenty of them by the end of the summer."

Katt is crazy but his comedy has a kernel of truth - whenever you are doing the right thing, oftentimes, especially at first, it seems like it goes against the status quo.

ebonygentleman said...

Damn. Now I have to turn my TV on to this mess from now until November.

Well, there you go, everybody.

I won't continue on this topic for fear that I will say something totally stereotypical about my people. I'll just shut up.

I'm tired. I'm done. I'm gone.

F*** it.


ebw-educated black woman said...

@EG would that sterotype have something to do with crabs and barrels?

@leslie, I disagree. Wrong is wrong. The fact that Jesse, Jr. is working as campaign national co-chair IMO, makes it worse. If Rev. Jackson had a concern he had an avenue by which to address it discreetly if he so chose.
I mean, come on, he was at Fox. If ever a place I'b be careful about what I said it would be Fox. They probably kept the camera running on purpose to capture such a moment. You'd think that Jesse would be smarter.

Wilma said...

Jesse jr. was right to distance himself from the opinions of his father as he holds very different opinions himself, but he should have and could have frased it with more respect towards his father.
The apology from Jackson is also correct I think because of the way he expressed himself which was kind of course (he clearly had no idea the mic was on, because he spoke as you would when unobserved). If he had expressed himself as someone who dissagrees with Obama on issues he shouldn't have had to apologize, but this was frased as a personal attack.

freedom said...

well, you've made a new friend for life. i say the same - he's earned the right to make a few faux pas' now and again. i have always tried to get that point over to other young folks, but, all they see is a rabble-rouser who needs to sit down. i feel the same for sharpton, as they both may speak loudly, as in ghetto-ishly loud, but, they bring the wrongdoing to light and keep the people informed that racism and discrimination is alive, well, and thriving. by "the people", i mean caucasians, as Blacks and other minorities have no problem recognizing that those ills still permeate the world.

it IS his right to say what he said, but, i am shocked that he would go that far. i am more shocked that his son hung him out to dry like that.

how quickly can we move past this one? it seems just as one dies down, here comes another word or two to put us in the spotlight, and, of course, i'm not talking about a good light.

thanks for not knockin' the brotha . . . too hard. peace.

freedom said...

sorry - the questions:

an apology was owed, but, i think that it should have been in private, and away from those who will pump this up to the max. if they don't know what was said, they can't use it. too late.

no - your CS is right on track, IMO. peace.

Vee (Scratch) said...

Jesse said what he said, thinking the microphone was off. The incident will go away but the media will definitely remember it.

I don't know about Jesse Jackson Jr. I understand putting some distance between himself and his father's statement but the end of his comments reveals his disdain.
"So I thoroughly reject and repudiate his ugly rhetoric. He should keep hope alive and any personal attacks and insults to himself." Why add the snarky reference?

I don't know. Personally, my father could commit a seriously heinous crime. Publicly, I would say the ACT is wrong and leave it at that. If pressed with further questioning, I would take a move from NYPD's playbook and say, "I will not rush to any judgements or conclusions until the matter is further investigated."

spool32 said...

OK, AB I was thinking the conspiracy theory about 5 paragraphs before I read it...

... maybe it's a little too much to believe, but I could cosign a theory where various race-baiting loons "accidentally" act the fool in front of cameras so that Obama can distance himself from the hype and the noise while, er, quietly not distancing himself from the leftwing political opinions he shares with them.

Style over substance? Yeah, I could believe that about the Obama campaign. That's been the theme all along.

Tiffany In Houston said...

N*ggas and flies...I do despise. You know the rest.

Kesi said...

Jesse is salty. Period. He's been on the scene for over 4 decades and couldn't pull off what Obama is doing in his 10 or so years in public office, and deep down, it pangs the hate out of him.

As a fellow Aggie, I'm appalled he could even think something like that about another brother. And a successful, well-intentioned, harmless dude that's just tryna do his thang.

Cut his nuts off? Off the record or not, you don't say that about ANYbody, especially someone you support and consider an ally. That was WAY out of line, and he HAS to clean up his dirt to maintain any kind of relevance and credibility.

Ang Jr couldnt have said it better--Keep hope alive, cause thats all he has left for him.

Ima channel my inner Biggie and say, "Well if they hate then let em hate, and watch the power (my version) pile up".

MissJay said...

"'He should keep hope alive and any personal attacks and insults to himself.' Why add the snarky reference?"

I thought I was the only one who thought that was a little messed up that he would put his father's slogan in his comment against him. Just because he disagreed with his comment he shouldn't have done his daddy like that.

MissJay said...

"'He should keep hope alive and any personal attacks and insults to himself.' Why add the snarky reference?"

I thought I was the only one who thought that was a little messed up that he would put his father's slogan in his comment against him. Just because he disagreed with his comment he shouldn't have done his daddy like that.

Daedalus said...

Jesse shouldnt have to apologize for anything. Jackson is saying to himself "Thats my campaign he's running! Crap!". As for your conspiracy theory, It almost sounds beleivable and a little Clintonesque. If its true, expect John Lewis to be thrown under the bus next. LOL. Seriously though I wonder how the civil rights industry is going to balance the their bread and butter argument "blacks are a
helpless opressed people
" with the obvious success of the Obamas. So far, they dont have a balance and this incident is proof..

rorysmomma said...

Yall shouldn't be mad that he called his daddy on his hypocritical comments. It is not the first time Jesse has said something crazy, and it won't be the last. He is not entitled to be an ass.... I don't care what he has done in the past. He is jealous and salty. Period.

Vivrant Thang said...

My bone of contention is with the "castration" comment. Why would he even say something like that?! We don't need that kind of rhetoric right about now coming from our own people, particularly with dumb ish like that Assasination exhibit with pictures of a big black one with the words "Once you go Barack, you never go back" in the same room with nooses. Um, clearly we got enough of THEM that want to do that to him already. And to say this on Fox News?! Indeed, what in the name of all that is holy was he doing over THERE?*smdh*

Jesse disgraced himself AGAIN and needs to go sit down somewhere. If he has valid complaints, he needs to holla at O about that behind the scenes. I think this may be a case of hateration and him feeling O man is calling his baby daddy ass out!

O Man should have just issued a one line response to this mess. "Jesse, how my ass taste?"

Anonymous said...

Fox actually handled pretty good. O'Reilly could have blown this shit up but he was tactful. I was surprised. And what was Jesse Jackson doing on Fox anyway? On Fox and talking greasy? I don't buy his apology, I smell Clinton loyalty in the air, like those old, dried up white women who are still crying for her.

Hank Nasty said...

@vivrant thang

Couldn't agree more, especially with your last point!

spool32 said...

Well. This isn't the first time Jesse Jackson has been in agreement with racists... but it's the first time he's agreed with the white ones!

innercityrose said...

@vivrant thang

I hear ya... total agreement. Jesse Jackson is the last person who should talking about morals, when he certainly wasn't living the high moral life himself.. Can anyone say 'love child' on the side. Obama struck a nerve with the absentee father remark, hence Jesse's anger towards him.

As far as Jesse Jr., I think he should have just said no comment, above all else that is his father and he needed to respect that.

Jesse: Please let it go.. your time has passed...just let it go.

cube said...

AB, I'm a little peeved at the way your "ethered" Zack from the comment boards. I know the guy has a tendency to be extremely annoying, but was that really necessary? I don't know what he sent to your work email, but still... Blogger Beef is sorta petty, man. Just add this guy to your list of haters and keep it movin'.

LMAO at the whole Young Buck coorelation though. I'm surprised nobody else has mentioned this. said...


so many things i'd like to say. AB, first off, you're the man. the traffic you've thrown my way cuz of that post that one day is ridiculous.

secondly. i had to swagger jack the apologetic post. i had no idea it existed, and it opens a whole new realm of wrong. the analogy to 50 and buck is spot on. except that obama isn't crazy and deranged and virtually obsolete/irrelevant like 50 is right about now. he's number one.

the thing that sucks is that it's black on black hate! jesse probably had a gang of people who fucked with both him AND barack. now, he's confusing his followers a bit. am i alone with that one? probably.

when he ran for president back in the day, he didn't run because he thought he would make a good president. he ran because he wanted to prove a point to america that he was in fact the most powerful african american of his time. and that's why he sucks. what happened to the rainbow coalition days!? i did a report on homeboy in 6th grade and he was my idol after i cranked out those 5 pages praising his work ethic and morals.

now the bamma just dropped like 30 notches, and like the tag says, MLK is probably crying inside.

obama '08 though. let's get it.

Miss GypsyEyes said...

Okay AB, I've got to give you props for tying it all together so neatly. I agree with jazzy, I am just over people not standing by their words. If you said it, on some level you meant it regardless of whether you wanted others to know that you felt that way. I don't use this phrase often but "man up and keep it real." That's why I don't have problems with the Neo-Nazi's and the Klan- at least they are up front with theirs.
I'm with Jesse Jr as well. I love my Dad but when he's wrong he's just wrong, and I don't have a problem calling him on it. Admittedly, there could have been more tact used but if you're looking for the bottomline Dad was out of order that neutering comment was just petty. Conversely, I don't think he owed Mr Obama an apology anymore than anyone else who's been dogging the man since he even thought of entering the race.

@brownman Katt Williams is a very strange little man but he's funnier than most of the twits out there making bad jokes.

Chris N. said...

What hurts Jesse even more is that he tried to be "sneaky" about it. Just his tone of voice and the look on his face (especially in his eyes)tells you that he knows he shouldn't be talking like that and is trying his best not to get caught.

Remember that his most infamous "misspeak," the Hymietown comment was also when he was trying to be sneaky. (He assumed that the Black reporter present would only report the talking points he was "supposed to."

At least with Imus and most of the others, they said what they said when they knew they were on the record, and that made it much easier for them to recover down the road.

But Jesse can apologize and make-nice as much as he wants, and the question will still be, "So what does he really think, and what will he say as soon as the cameras and mikes are unplugged?"

ebw-educated black woman said...

Said it before, I'll say it again. IMO, those who were most offendd by Obama's "father's day" comments, are those who felt a tinge of guilt. Jesse is the last person to call Obama out for "admonishing" black folk, as he saw it. This is the same Jesse, who while counseling Bill Clinton during the Lewinsky scandal, while embroiled in a heated controversy with his mistress/baby mamma. The guilty pig always squeals.

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