
If you were alive and/or kickin' during the 80's (sorry Ciara) you'll remember the classic urban debate: Michael or Prince?
Long before he became a walking punchline, Michael Jackson was pop music in The Greatest Decade Evar!!! Hell, you could argue that Michael Jackson was The 80's. The bulk of his career success (the best selling album evar, 13 Grammies, 13 #1's, Motown 25, Captain EO) happened during this decade. Ditto for Prince, whose funk-infused Pop/R&B/Soul music dominated the airwaves as well. In the pre-BET days, these guys were the only two artists of color whose videos consistently ran on MTV. I remember waiting through hours and hours of Quiet Riot and Twisted Sister videos, just to watch "Let's Go Crazy" or "Thriller"[1].
Michael and Prince were the 80's, but most people tended to like one more than the other, thus the long ranging debate.
Michael fans seemed to love the dances, the relative[2] down-to-Earth demeanor, the family-friendly songs. Prince fans were generally a bit darker and moodier in personality, and of course Prince sang about "doin' it" a lot, so he was hardly PG-13. I know that sounds prudish in a day when "Bust It Baby" gets played in Color Me Mine on Father's Day, but hey, times have changed.
I liked Michael more, but I liked girls who liked Prince for obvious reasons.
Two decades later, the career and life arcs of the two couldn't have changed more dramatically.
Michael is considered a reclusive circus freak to most. There's the white babies, and the white baby mamas[3], and the pedophilia allegations, and the vitiligo, and the bad interviews, and the financial ruins, and that bizarre "Jews are the Devil" thing, and the ruined family name, and... I keep going on for days.
Conversely, Prince is now somewhat considered the less screwed-up and better socially adjusted of the two. He's a Jehovah's witness. He won independence from his record label. He still tours and makes lots of money doing so. He was a pioneer in using the internet to sell music. He was actually married for awhile, presumably to a real life woman. He might could drive a minivan and read AB.com for all I know.
He seems, dare I say... normal, or at least normal when compared to the walking train wreck that is Michael Jackson circa 2008.
While I'm a Michael fan, I've never gotten to see him in concert. I remember when the Victory Tour hit the US in the mid 80's at the height of Thriller's popularity. I wanted to go, badly, but being a preteen, I couldn't exactly hit up StubHub and drive myself. Not with the tickets being $125 (yikes!) and whatnot. Plus, cool stuff never came to the Carolinas. Michael and Co. only came as close as Landover, MD. My uncle and aunt did go, and regaled us with tales of the concert for months afterward. And I hated them for months afterward.
We're cool now of course, but I still wanted to see MJ. It's just one of those items on my "things I wanna do before I call it a life" bucket list, right up there with playing in an actual NBA game, and learning how to make my own etouffee. Quirky, sure.
Looks like I just might still get my chance.
Michael Jackson may relaunch his career as a Las Vegas act, thanks to the private equity group that recently bought the loan on his Neverland Ranch in California to help the pop star avert foreclosure.Only time will tell just how much Michael has left in the tank. Will he still have all the electricity of the "I'm Bad"-era MJ, or will his show be lazy and sad like some lousy Tropicana lounge act? We shall see.
The investment firm Colony Capital is discussing with Jackson various repayment options for the $23 million debt, including a possible long-term engagement as the resident performer of a Vegas casino or nightclub, a source familiar with the talks said on Friday.
The source emphasized that no deal was in place and that a gig for Jackson in Las Vegas, a city of second chances for many faded superstars, was merely one idea under consideration as Colony Capital explores loan repayment scenarios with him.
Bringing Jackson to Sin City as a performer would mark the biggest step the 49-year-old performer has taken toward a comeback since a child molestation trial left his career, his reputation and financial status in tatters three years ago.
I'm sure you guys will roundly criticize me for publicly stating that I'd fly halfway across the country and pay good money to see a desperate man sing for food, when I just bashed Robert Sylvester Kelly for essentially getting away with the same thing Jackson was once accused of recently. And you'd be right.
I'm just hypocritical like that.
I guess I'll have to deal with those issues when the tickets go on sale. Cause I will be headed to Vegas.
Question: Michael or Prince? And assuming you're a Michael fan, would you pay to see him in concert in Vegas? Do you see supporting Michael's get-outta-debt concert series as financially enabling a pedophile or is there no such concern? If you're a Prince fan, have you seen him in concert?
Michael Jackson in talks on possible Las Vegas act [Reuters]
[1] I'll admit, I was prolly 21-22 years old before I could watch this whole video without being scared sh*tless. I can watch it now and just laugh, but Thriller had a young AB shook.
[2] Note the word "relative". Yeah, Mike was weird, but admit it. Prince was "out there" by comparison.
[3] Come on, Mike. You know them ain't your kids. Ain't that much vitiligo in the world.

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Late 70's - 80's MJ was perfection; I spit at anything post-Thriller (apart from Butterflies). 80's and early 90's Prince also rocked. However, his last album left me cold.
As for MJ's vitiligo, who is he trying to kid? Even white people with vitiligo aren't that white. Stevie Wonder can see those kids are not his. 'But the kid is not my son' indeed.
Anyway. Out of the 2, I'd pay money to see Prince - you know you'd get a good show. MJ just seems tired; not just in comparison, but in general.
AB I am sorry but I can't help the glove one with his money problem but would love too see Prince. I can see Prince doing Purple Rain.
OK, I'm giving away my age here BUT I saw MJ during the Destiny tour in Charlotte. It was my very first concert and my uncle took me and my two cousins. I was eight.
I also saw them on the Victory tour. I decided I wanted to go and told my mother to make it happen. That was the one time she took directions from me. My best friend's mom and my mom drove us from Charlotte to Knoxville, Tenn., waited outside for us while we went to the concert. It was great!
So I guess it's clear that I was into MJ back in the day. Prince was too nasty and my mother wouldn't let me listen to anything of his that wasn't on the radio and not even all of that if she thought it was "too grown." I did con my dad into taking me to see Purple Rain. Twice. I wanted top purify myself in the waters of lake Minnetonka. Hah!
Anyways, I can't cosign on what MJ has become over the years so I would not go see him perform now. I did go see Prince in 2004. Baddest. concert. EVAH!
What's up, AB!
I think the Prince/MJ debate was one of the great debates of the 80's if you were a teenager, which I was.
Michael's videos got you excited and his performances were ridiculous.
Prince was mysterious and freaky and weird and you were drawn to that.
I too never got to see MJ in concert when he came here to Atlanta. I wanted to but could not afford the tickets and the parentals were not hardly going to give me $150 to see him but I did get to see Prince twice, once at the Charlotte Coliseum (I was in school at Winthrop and five of us actually slept out for tickets - remember those days?:). and once in Atlanta (my sister slept out at Turtles for those tickets. Boy, I am really aging myself, ain't I? :)
The guy I was dating was and I'm sure still totally into Prince and I was stoked for the concert. Even got my favorite pair of jeans, some bleach and a toothbrush and wrote Prince's songs all over my pants. I was just looking at the picture the other day. Sign O the Times, Do Me Baby, Let's Go Crazy...I'm amazed at the amount of song titles that I got on my pants legs and capped it all off with KISS written across the butt. You cound not tell me ANYTHING that night, I was the ish!
We had great seats near the stage and we were close enough that when I got up to dance, Prince saw me and my pants and pointed at me and gave me a thumbs up and smiled. I almost passed out and turned around so he could see the KISS on my booty, turned back around and he was laughing and mouthed "that's great". I was in heaven that Prince Nelson Rogers had actually acknowledged me. Good times...good times...
And I won't mention how when we were in high school, my friend Regina had a huge crush on Prince, my friend Marquita had a huge crush on MJ and I had a huge crush on Todd Bridges (don't ask). We would have a meeting once a week to exchange pictures with each other. And when people had their allegiance to either one of them, there was no acknowledging the other, Quiter had no use for Prince and Gina thought MJ was overrated.
I think that my preference today would be to see Prince. He and his music have stayed in the spotlight (check out the new Jet) and unfortunately, Mike's bad press may outweigh any efforts to get back on the pony.
Prince - all day long! Adore. Do Me, Baby. Erotic City. Another Lonely Christmas. How Come you Don't Call Me, Anymore. And those are just SOME of his older stuff that I love.
I still love me some Prince. I've seen both Prince & the J5 (showing my age) in concert many times. As a kid - J5 (Marlon) all the way. As an adult - Prince - all day!
I used to be all about Michael. Well I'm still about 80s Michael's music and Jackson 5 joints too. I was in spin class yesterday and right when I was worn out, the instructor put on "Don't Stop 'Til You Get Enough" I was pedaling away!
I didn't get into Prince much until I got older and my musical taste broadened. Michael was more accessible, I think. Price a bit more "abstract" or weird. I appreciate his musical talent. His ear. His "i don't give a fuck what yall are talkin' about" attitude. I also dig that he was a high school basketball phenom and wears ruffles.
On a sidenote, even though Prince might wear as much or more makeup than Michael and his perm has always been bouncy, he's clearly more heterosexual and sexy out of the two. Prince can get it. LOL
Still, if Michael rolled up on me or I had the chance to see him live, I'd jump (after I fainted). I'd rather pay $$ for Prince though.
Michael Jackson recently asked Prince to write and produce a record for him. Prince declined.
Allegedly Prince stole his whole freaky mysteriously act with girls in tow from the real-life nasty-freak man Rick James. Prince is just a regular musician who had the spotlight on him on too many times. All in all it was entertainment.
Michael vs. Prince??
Michael was and is a phenominal performer with international appeal. Although you may argue that Thriller was a "worked" record, its success is undeniable. I don't think there will be another singer who can dance and sing like Michael. After all he is James Brown's son.
Prince?? A prolific singer-songwriter and an incredible musician. Who else do you want serving you pancakes after a game of basketball?
If Michael Jackson got off the Jesus juice and whatever drugs he's on, he would have the strength to tour internationally and easily earn $40 - $50 million after a 2-year period. At 64, Mick Jagger puts many performers TO SHAME!
MJ's vitiligo is very real.
Prince on the other hand simply needs to stop wearing high-heels and accept the fact that he's REALLY SHORT. Now he's having hip problems. Sad.
They're both great and spawned so many imitators and children. And Usher really thinks Omarion and Chris Brown are biting his style. What about Bobby Brown?? Ha!
Shout out to Little Richard, he's still going strong.
^AB, scared of Thriller?!? I was too focused on the girl in the video.
Like ms.kimba412, I also had a HUGE crush on Marlon. As a matter of fact, when my brother was born he was named after my father's middle name, which is Marlon and yes, my parents allowed me and my two sisters to come up with his middle name. And yes, his middle name is Jackson. Believe that!
Prince v/s Mike
Tyra v/s Naomi
Whenever there where 2 blacks dominating something, somebody had to pin them against each other. But that's beside the point, Prince>>>>> Mike, he composes his own music, mike just sings and dance.
MJ's vitiligo is very real.
^^^I disagree, Mike's vitiligo is the only one that affects his whole body
Prince by a long shot... Hey thriller had me shoock to bro..
AB..all I can say is.. window or aisle seat? Have always wanted to see him perform live. If he does, I am sure he will be fully prepared, I highly doubt he will get up on the stage just to make himself look like a tired old worn shoe. I luv's me some Prince too though...
I'm on the hypocrite bus right along with you. I'd pay good money to see MJ in concert.
I've seen Prince already so seeing MJ would make everything complete.
AB I feel you on the Carolina's getting no love. BUT Prince was in Raleigh I want to say 07 but it may bave been 06; so we're on the come up. As for the MJ vs Prince issue, at the time I loved them both equally. Oddly enough, when the Biggie vs. Tupac thing came around I was firmly on the Pac side(still am.)
Prince addressed the issue on some VH1 thing a few years back and said something to the effect of "it's funny how time changes things; who would've thought I'd be the normal one?"
I know that MJ still has legions of fans around the world but they couldn't pay me enough to go see him live, I can't stand the thought that right now it would be a huge let down. In my mind MJ will always been the King of Pop and bring the house down with his live show, but I have a strong feeling that he's just going to be that pitiful, pale dude, that we saw for 4 minutes discussing the search of his home and body. BUZZ KILL!
Prince on the other hand, I would gladly bear his short hairy little children, and give up several internal organs to see him live.
No contest. Prince overwhelmingly wins. MJ's music is good but Prince is gifted, talented and his music is outstanding!
Back in the '80's LOVED MJ, I loved Purple Rain, I loved Thriller, Bad, the mooonwalk, Paisley Park, just everything MJ and Prince. So trying to choose between the 2 is like choosing between mom and dad...no one should ever make you choose!!!!
My 1st concert was MJ's Bad tour. I've been ruined for every concert since, nothing can ever compare! I saw Prince's musicology and, although I loved it, I know it couldn't compare to Prince's show during his prime.
Both are musical geniuses who should be allowed to peacefully co-exist. Truly, the music is almost apples and oranges. Although Prince is the more versatile with the instruments, writing and producing...Michael has the longevity from childhood and the undeniable impact of knowing you've witness something truly amazing and once in a lifetime if you were around to see his meteoric rise through the 70's and 80's. For reasons already discussed, Prince's appeal was a bit limited due to the contents of his music, but Michael touched people of ALL AGES. To this day my 10 year old don't know much about Motown, but she knows the Jackson 5!
The rise of Michael, Prince and rap music were some of the things that made growing up in the 1980's one of the greatest things EVAR!
My younger sister is a Mike fan today, and she just turned 21.
I'd have to give the edge to Mike over Prince. During his prime, MJ's biggest videos were simulcast on every major network when they dropped. I still remember when "Bad", "Remember The Time" and "Black or White" were simulcast.
"Remember The Time" had me marking out like crazy...that vid was so tight.
My cousins had the zipper jackets, gloves and one even had an MJ watch that would flash his picture.
To this day, I only know MJ as the only black man (I know he isn't now) who could make white folks cry, faint and be carried off at his concerts.
NBC would show some stuff from Europe, and all you saw were fans losing their minds. Then Mike would start singing "Man In The Mirror" and it was OV-AH!!!
Stretchers and medics were everywhere. That ain't happening today.
I haven't seen that type of mania since.
EG
MJ all the way. I do like Prince though.
I doubt I'd pay to see him. I wouldn't pay to see anyone these days. I prefer concerts on DVD (they come with back stage extras). No crowds, no pushing, no smells.
I'm a life long Prince fan and I don't think there is real comparison. Prince is a noted musical genius. Michael is just an entertainer, though a very good one. I pick Prince over Michael even though Michael and I share the same hometown. I saw Prince in concert and it was the best thing ever, and I would gladly pay to see him in concert again. I would see Michael in concert, only the tickets were significantly less than what I paid to see Prince (he sets the standard).
I just looked at his picture and again...the walking definition of man pretty. So sexy.....
Prince, not Michael
Prince fan all the way! My bedroom walls were wallpapered with Prince posters. I had all his records, lace gloves, etc. Me and 2 of my friends did Appolonia Six's "Sexshooter" dance in the school talent show (I was Appolonia). We were Prince heads, we lived in that world 24/7.
I saw him in concert once and he literally hypnotized the crowd with a guitar solo. I had nosebleed seats but bumrushed my way to the front section. Prince forever!
Come on AB! It's like asking me to pick my favorite out of say, two brothers.
I was thinking about these two the other day while driving and Steve Harvey show was playing the hits of both Jackson and Prince.
Here's the deal: I've known Michael longer since my parents practically collected the Jackson 5records before I was born. And Gosh what do I say for Thriller and Michael's INSANE dance moves. So for entertainment go for Michael.
Now unto Prince: TALENTED! I still think his 2007 Superbowl performance was the best I've seen - but then again I haven't lived that long. Anyway, I thought Prince earned every single Dollar he got for that performance in the rain.
I saw him about a month ago on the Tonight Show. I was really sleepy but when I heard Jay Leno say Prince was coming up next, I willed myself to stay awake for a few more minutes.
And I still stop to watch Purple Rain after the umteenth time when it comes on. Of course not for the acting; but the music. Artistry goes to Prince.
Prince Rules! I never got the MJ thing! I am still mad at my mama for not letting me go to see Prince on his Dirty Mind tour when I was 13. I fixed her butt and got a job. I was sitting pretty at the during the 1999 tour.
I listen to old Prince all the time, the only MJ I listen to is old Jackson 5. And I just can't get over MJ's meltdown with the money and these messes with children. I can't support that.
I was born too late for Prince but in enough time to enjoy MJ's rise through the 1990s. I can still remember dancin around the house as a kid to the Remember the Time video. As I started getting older, I got more into his Off The Wall and Thriller albums (Thriller is an absolute must listen no matter what music you enjoy).
I do enjoy Prince now, but definitely MJ for his body of work in my mind.
I wasn't really posing the "Michael or Prince?" question as one of vis-a-vis artistic merit, but it's good to see such spirited discussion anyway.
Seems like the responses were about 50-50 which says everything, yet says nothing at the same time.
Fact is, you can (and should) like them both, but sadly, only one man can actually be seen in concert. I'm hoping MJ's Vegas rent party materializes.
I'll be theeeeeeereee!!!!
Prince, Prince, Prince. Still my absolute favorite. The man is a musical genius. And beautiful.(Those eyes!) I still will pay undisclosed amounts of money and travel for miles to see him.
bonnie, yes girl, you are aging yourself but it's okay-I too stood in line at Turtle's for Prince tickets. (Until I got that job as a concierge at the Ritz and got introduced to members of the band-it was free tickets at will call after that-good times indeed!)
And vee- I saw Prince in Europe back in the day when he opened for Rick James. He didn't steal Rick's style. Prince has been an original from day one. I belive Rick was just a little jealous and a little high. (Although, I do loves me some Rick James--he can't hold a candle to Prince.)
Michael while crazy talented, has always seemed a lil' "off" to me. He was ever my favorite Jackson. I had a thing for Marlon and Jackie. I'm over it now. Although Jackie (along with Rebbie) is one of the more "normal" appearing Jacksons.
Let go ahead and tell you why MJ is the BADDEST MF around. Because not only do you know every song on the Thriller album you know the order of the songs
Not cheating by using google
1. Wanna be starting something
2. Baby be mine
3. The girl is mine
4. Thriller
5. Beat it
6. Billie Jean
7. Human Nature
8. PYT
9. Lady in my life
I mean c'mon man. Nigga wasn't wearing "When doves Cry" jackets...they was wearin' "Beat it" jackets and "Thriller" jackets. They had Black and Red nigga. And ALL types of boot legs. Event the BAD album had 5 #1 songs. Did you hear me I said 5. Go look it up...I know you are.
If He did a concert and sang the songs that we like Anybody would go see that. Instead this nigga would go and sing "Leave me alone". Or some other bullshit.
How about both? They are both great artists, both understand music in ways most of us don't, but shared the wonder of it with us. Prince understands sexuality to perfection and uses it in his music the same way- perfection. Yes, we sisters loved Prince's music just for that alone, lol. Michael is the prince of pop, and he understood pop the same. Even his asexuality is in his music because none of it sexual in the least. Thriller? Greatest all time video ever made. I'd pay good money to see Prince, tho honestly, Purple Rain was never a turn on for me. Mike? No. About that Thriller thing, you have issues don't you? Lol.
Prince all the way. I could never understand those kids walking around with the MJ school notebook. I like his music and all that, but once I heard Prince I was sold for life. It was so bad I had to sneak into the movies to see Purple Rain. Worth the potential trouble.
I have seen him in concert 4 times and waiting for the next time. Always have my Prince concert money on standby. He is phenomenal & worth every penny, dime and quarter! He is notorious for having like 4 or 5 encores...you never know when the concert is going to end.
At one concert he was late and said he would make it up to us. He did...3am when it was over.
Forget Mike come over to our side!
WOWOWOWOWOWOW.
i was JUST about to write this post. i'm talking, breaking it the fuck down between prince and michael. i don't know michael that well, but i know that his "off the wall" deluxe edition is the baddest album i've ever heard in my life. bad like good.
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I was a mere high schooler when I saw my first Prince concert (5 and counting). He's had me hooked ever since. MJ was a great entertainer, but all that crouch grabbing just icked me out. Prince's music was hot and sexy. I loved dancing to it. So Prince all the way and I have been to see the Jackson 5, The Jacksons, and MJ's Bad Tour. I'll still take Prince anyday
Okay, granted when I was a kid I was an MJ fan. I rocked the "beat it" jacket with all those damn zippers, I had all the T-shirts, the buttons...And the day after Motown 25 came on TV, I just like every other kid was at school doing the moonwalk. And hell, I still got thriller in the CD player. But Prince is the MAN. What makes Prince better than Mike is sheer talent. He can play pretty much any instrument you put in front of him, where as Mike can only sing and dance and had a hell of a producer...You can't tell me that Thriller wouldnt have sold all those copies without Quincy Jones...You see he has not been able to do it since he kicked Q to the curb. And besides (well at least in my opinion) Everything Prince put his name on was the shit.
Hmm been a while since anyone posted here. Let me lay it out for you. Prince was a superstar, but Michael was and still is the greatest living pop artist.
I have paid for my ticket and will be seeing him at the O2 in London on July 13th and I reckon it's time for him to show the world what they seem to have forgotton. MJ all the way. Oh and AB, hope you've got a ticket too!
P.S MJ, James Brown and Prince on stage together here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1CoxNzOOoQU
I keep saying one of the few things musical that came from the 80's was Prince; clearly, clearly one of the greatest rock n' rollers of all time. If you put up his body of musical work vs. Michael's, while Michael may have more iconic hits there's no comparison when it comes to composition and musicianship.
Forget Michael; I'd put Prince's work up against ANY pop performer, from ANY GENRE.
If you've never seen him in concert, you're missing one of the greatest musical experiences you could ever had: the Purple One absolutely ROCKS 'DA HOUSE unlike any other.
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