Friday, May 16, 2008

AB.com Guest Post: Thembi's New "Lady Laws" For Young Black Women


[Editor's Note: AB.com isn't the only blog I read of course. Last week, when I posted my epic AB's New "Man-Laws" For Young Black Males I tossed out a request for someone to answer with some "Girl Laws". I'd love to come up with these myself, but given my male genitalia and general ignorance of most things feminine (just ask AverageSis. How does this woman tolerate me?) I figured it would be best to call in an expert. And my homegirl Thembi, from the excellent blog What Would Thembi Do?, is just that and then some. As with any Guest Post, be good and show some love you know where.]

Living right at the imaginary line where Philadelphia goes from a college city to being straight up hood, I can say that I've seen my share of young ladies acting a fool, and if they were behaving themselves I couldn't tell which were little girls playing with toy babies and which were actually pushing their own teen pregnancy products in strollers down the block. What's crazy is that unlike AB, who is neatly settled in a nuclear family and has accepted that he is (gasp!) an adult, I have regressed into my teenage years by getting airbrushed nails, dancing at parties like nobody is watching, and shimmying into outfits straight from Bare Feet and other stores in which I have no business. I am proof that whatever ladyghettononsense you may engage in, you can be ok. But guess what – I had to act right FIRST before I earned that right, and I did so by following these rules, all of which were implicit in my upbringing. So I have a few words of advice . . .

1. Stay Off Of The Pole. And For That Matter, Out Of Videos. I haven't decided whether or not I have a real problem with strippers or strip clubs in general - who am I to say that men shouldn't be allowed to gather in a public place and expose their inability to be fully intimate with their spouses by fondling and ogling some stray woman? What I do know is that YOU shouldn't be one of said strays. Letting your body be drool-worthy for a room full of men cheapens and degrades you, and in the long run is not at all worth the money (no matter how pressed you are for cash). You never know who will be in that club, and when the "I saw Keisha on the pole!" story is told, your future boss or uncle who was "just in there with his boys" won't be the shamed one, you will! If you like showing off your sexy side, which all of us should, save it for the right man, who will love enjoying all of the freaknasty you have inside of you without having to pay for it on a dollar-by-dollar basis. Someone will always do it, just don't let that someone be you. The same goes for being in videos. That is NOT a profession and will not lead to any sort of meaningful career, modeling or otherwise. A ho is a ho, root word whore, meaning sex for sale, and your stuff is priceless. Got it?

2. Go Where No Blackgirl Has Gone Before. The obvious interpretation of the title of my blog is that I think that I'm some Jesus figure. Not so. Actually, the very weekend before I started blogging, loyal commenter Aaliyah was at an almost all-white party filled with beefy frat boys and was asked to do a kegstand. At her side were two other friends of mine, one of which said to her "What would Thembi do?" The obvious answer – go where no black girl has gone before and do the freaking keg stand! It really IS ok to be you, whether it's as trivial as going snowboarding or as major as pursing a PhD in Greek Mythology. Do the most random or ridiculous things you feel like doing even if you're not technically supposed to do them, and do them at all times. The same goes for rock concerts, tattoo conventions, playing the accordion, or whatever! Being a blackgirl comes with a unique set of baggage - on the one hand, we're accustomed to being a minority in almost any situation a million times over. On the other hand, we feel like there are certain places and activities that aren't "ok" for us. Forget all of that, risk ostracization, and trailblaze for us all. We can't keep saying "But blackgirls don't _______" or else we'll never do anything at all. Be YOU, regardless of whatever skin tone, sorority, thickness, neighborhood, or whatever you may be a part of. None of it is as fresh as plain old blackgirl you.

3. DON'T Get Pregnant, DO Have A Baby. When people say "Life Is Short," they really mean that life is short – when you're unencumbered. Life is really, really long when you're tied down to some dude who seemed great when you were sixteen years old but hasn't even made it through his baby boy years when it's time to send junior off to middle school. In fact, it can even seem too long when you start to calculate the potential unpaid child support, the number of times you tried to "make it work for the baby", and the time you'll spend child rearin' instead of actually growing up, getting degrees, and making a name for yourself. Not to say you can't have a baby early and have it all turn out rosy in the end, but howsabout having children with someone who can actually agree to be with you in a family unit for the long haul whether or not you just happen to get pregnant? Sidenote: It should go without saying, but why even risk diseases by not protecting yourself? A baby is not the only gift that keeps on giving, you know.

4. Know Your Own Hair.
Black women have more hair options than almost anyone else, and we exercise them to the fullest. But even those of use who switch from weave to ponytail and from blonde to red would never dare to wear our natural hair in public. I can spend the whole day running errands and not see one blackgirl without a perm, and the same goes for watching television or opening a magazine. What is up with that? Granted, I went natural the easy way with the Philly soul thing being at my heart and a head of naps that never really took a perm quite right, but what pains me is when another blackgirl says to me "I love your hair! How long did it take to grow? I could never get my hair to be that texture. How did you do it?" The reality of it is, most of us don't even know what is growing out of our own heads, and its very sad. Not one other group of people on this planet can say the same. It's fine if you settle on a perm or some braids or even a Jheri curl after exploring your options, just get to the point where you can say that you know what your natural hair even looks and feels like before you aspire to be Beyonce by default.

5. Get Out Of Town.
I've met young women who have never left their cities, seen the ocean, or even set foot in another zip code. It's not always cheap, and it's not always fun, but the sooner you start traveling the better. In fact, this Lady Law applies to almost everyone of every race and gender. Make a list of dream locations and get started as soon as possible. The more time you spend in the same surroundings the less you understand about the world, and for that matter, what the world thinks of you – you'll learn that you're not trapped after all. Besides, you can't conquer the world if you don't know what's out there, and it should be your goal to conquer it! Let the trailer trash of West Virginia confuse Mexicans with Spaniards and believe that Africa is a country and not a continent. Learn your world because it is yours to learn, even if you have to do so only an inch at a time.

6. Don't Get Called Out of Your Name. I'm not on this whole "we were queens" tip, but I know that none of us should be called or let ourselves be called any of the following: bitch, ho, trick, and on and on and on. Don't sing along with songs about "makin' it rain" unless it's for the sake of irony. Don't even participate in anything misogynistic unless you know it's only a joke to you, and even then don't ever pay for it. Recognize that just like when he talks about selling crack you're not selling crack, that when some rapper talks about his hoes he doesn't mean you, download that song from Limewire, and keep it moving. And lastly, never, EVER call yourself anyone's "baby's momma." My first encounter with an ex's grown BM involved her introducing herself to someone as such, and as much evidence as I may have already had that she was feeble-minded, giving herself that label sealed the deal. Don't be that broad.

7. Act White. I won't bother justifying this term because you all know just what I mean. Talk white by speaking the King's English, using full sentences, and the most intricate vocabulary you can muster. Act white by doing well in school, participating in any activity that suits you, and playing musical instruments. Don't worry, you will never, ever actually BE white. If it were possible, don't you think that all of those people who were lynched and beaten back in the day would have white-acted their way out of it?

8. Get What You Deserve Without Worrying About What He Deserves. This is a weird one. All too often women say "I'm not giving it up to him, he doesn't deserve it!" But what do YOU want? While it's not smart to just go giving it up to any old body, getting caught up in the idea that your sexual desires should be based on what men deserve is the exact opposite of feminism. If we only had sex when men deserved it we would be a bunch of bitter, mean, deprived wenches. Learning and maintaining the balance between withstanding pressure from dudes and getting yours is part of becoming a real woman.

9. Don't Eat That Mess. Our country is facing an obesity epidemic, yadda yadda blah blah. But it's all so very real, ladies, and I'm as guilty as the next chick. The thing is, you can get fat and out of shape eating regular food and that's damning enough. It's the Chinese Store chicken wings and fries (saltpepperketchup or no), grape soda, chips, quarter water, or other mess. If you can believe for one second that AIDS or crack was planted in the black community to kill us, what do you think Crown Fried Chicken is here for? And your body may be able to metabolize it before you hit 25, but after that it's just a quick ride to Lane Bryant once you get addicted, so don't do it.

10. Be A Lady. I have never been the most ladylike of blackgirls and most women like me can trace that to our upbringings, but it's really very simple. It's very natural for us to speak loudly, but it's more powerful when used in small doses, just like hot sauce. Making that lip smack before you start speaking is not cute either, especially if it's followed by a "weeeeeeeeaaaaal," twist of your neck, and then whatever it is that you have to say. By doing that, not only have you butchered the word "well," but whatever you have to say is eclipsed by that attempt to get attention and gear up like you need prep time just to speak your mind. Swearing every other word may be cute to around-the-way boys but if you ever want to get off of the block (see Lady Law #5), it won't do you any good. Although every once in a while another female may make your blood boil, fighting is not cute – just think, aren't you way too pretty to get into a fight and get some gash across your face? I don't think I need to caution young blackgirls on good grooming because we're good at that, but do you really need to let all of that unravel just because some girl is talking about you? What does that even really mean? Like Katt Williams says, if you've got fourteen haters, you need to find a way to get sixteen!

32 AverageComments™:

Poopyman said...

What's up that I post the first comment here? Anybody home?

Being a white guy over twice the age of your target audience, I can't comment much on your rules, other than to say that #7 made me wince. Hell, could we please convince black, brown, yellow, AND white kids to please "Act White"?

And before this veers into "get offa my lawn!" crazyoldman territory, let me say that saying somebody "acts white" gives way too much power to just being white. There are way too many people (not just kids, not just black) who could benefit from this rule.

daedalus said...

You left out the part about avoiding men who averagebro describes in his previous post refrencing the manlaws. Averagebro had some great points in his post, however he didnt go to a major source of the problem: our women. Before you plot my untimely death, let me explain. Half the reason men do the stupid stuff they do is because women are attracted to it and/or impressed by it. When black women stop being attracted to felons, alot of men will stop that behavior and try another way of living. As it is now, all they have to do is look good and lay some pipe and they got money in their pocket, car to drive and three others to bang during the day while she is at work. Now I am not talking about the 5% of black women, who all know each other, who dont like felons, who are about to tell me to go to hell for saying it. I am talking about the 95% who do.

Poopyman said...

daedalus said...


(Poopyman backs slowly out of the room...)

Anonymous said...

Re: law #7.
It's called acting educated, well-mannered, and acting with common sense. Quite frankly, these are NOT limited to the white race and usig the phrase "acting white" further exacerbates the problem. When has it ever been a compliment to be told "you're acting white"? Never. By telling young ladies to "act white" you are telling them to alienate themselves because that is how they will perceive and understand the phrase.

cube said...

ya'll are taking point #7 waaaay out of context. the term "actin' white" isn't meant literally. but figuratively, LOTS of our youth still don't associate academic achievement with being cool. All the blogger is trying to say here is that we need to be sure our kids are focusing on doing well in school.

Anonymous said...

Sorry cube, I can't agree with you.

Although it is meant figuratively, its meaning goes deeper and too many people have had the phrase hurled at them as an insult to use it so loosely. In my opinion, the phrase's concept is still the same.

Anonymous said...

Damn, yall are getting your panties in a bunch over NOTHING. Did ya'll actually READ #7 or just the title?

This was an excellent post. AB's was more practical, this one's more visionary. Then again, I guess that's the difference in men and women.

studpoet said...

well, i'm not so much tweaked off the "Act White" statement. However, it might have been better to title it "Don't be afraid to Code Switch" (i.e. know how to speak and act around all types of people).

My thing was the whole "do the keg stand". Being the only one or one of two black chicks in a room full of white frat boys is problematic in itself. Being the only female in a room full of any group of men can be problematic. But doing keg stands while in that room is a complete no no! Keg stands are for chicks who have "run a train on me" written on their forheads.

If you are imploring young women to behave as young women then keg stands is the antithesis of that. I agree that we, as black women, need to embrace all of our quirkiness whether its loving 80's hair metal to have a penchant for french tips on your toenails but that whole keg stand dealie was just not cool.

Also, I find it interesting that whenever someone points out the flaws in men they immediately point the finger back at women and say, "they made me do it." Its true that there are women out there that like thugs and idiots but there are quite a few that don't. I mean if women liked men to jump off a cliff would you do that too? Hell no.

What we actually need to do is stop looking outward for the source if the idiocy and start looking in the mirror. If your (in general) shit is shady then thats your shit. Deal with it. Change it. Yeah people might think you're a lame cause you actually want to keep your lil wang in your pulled up belted pants. And you cut your hair in a nice style removing all sight of baby hair. But yeah, its all about you and your BS. Ya know?

Tiffany In Houston said...

Great list..a few quibbles though..

If I could get all the natural hair nazis to quit telling me what to do with my permed hair I would be SOOOOOOOOOO happy. I love natural hair, sistahs be rocking it but that ain't me. Can you back back and give me 50 ft??

And being a thicker sister who is in the process of shrinkage, I would just like to point out that shopping at the Lane Bryant while trying to shrink a gut does not make one a social pariah. Fluffy folks have the right to look cute too. That is all.

Other than that, couldn't agree more.

Thembi said...

@daedalus

Let me respond as if I didnt write this post...

I'm not even going to address your flawed percentages of women who like 'thugs' and those who don't, but why is the onus on women to control the behavior of men? Why isnt the solution to men doing stupid stuff simply to say "Hey men, don't do stupid stuff even if you think it'll help you get booty. A real man is his own man."? Because really, thats the theme of my message to women - a real woman does what she knows is the best thing to do for herself and not for any man, haters, or cash, so why can't that also be the message to men?

ebonygentleman said...

I agree with what dadalus said. Stop chasing thugs, and you'll get real men.

And stop coming to us "real" men when you want a wedding ring once you've whored yourself out.

I'm just sayin'.

EG

Tiffany In Houston said...

I'm really tripping that ya'll men think all the sistas want thugs. WTF?

I'm going to need all of you to stop watching straight to DVD flicks and Plies videos..what is REALLY going on??

ebonygentleman said...

Allow me to amend my last post...

*Ahem*

Most of today's women don't want THUGS, per se....

They want DRAMA, whether it's admitted or not. Thugs bring that exciting drama into their lives. Real men bring drama too, just not jailhouse, baby mama drama. Real men call it "ADVENTURE!" :)

For example, my sister in law suffers from "Good D*** Syndrome."
GDS influences her to put up with a thugged out boyfriend on crack.

Just last week, he tore up her house, and had her living with her sister for the night, all because my wifey STYLED HER HAIR. Dude thought she was cheating because she got her hair fixed.

The next day, she went to the house where he was staying and spent time with him.

W. T. F?!?

Miss Issues said...

First off, stop believing stereotypes. Most bw do not want thugs, some do, but most don't. None of my female friends or immediate relatives date them either. I was raised kind of bougie. Now I have a few cousins who do, but they are not in the majority.

2nd. Great list. I just sign up for a few only black girl activities by signing up for rock climbing, buying seasons ticket to the symphony orchestra (which I always loved, but never felt ashamed to admit to other black folks and going to the theatre(not talking about a broadway play).

I also just started my mediterrean cruise fund.

Keep up the good work.

Girl Next Door said...

Can please, PLEASE bury the "But I'm a Good Guy" myth? Whether people want to admit it a not alot of these guys are the spurned boys from back in the day who grew (perhaps got a degree or whatever) and now SOMEONE is going to pay for them not having a girlfriend or a prom date or whatever.

To all of those "good guys" who are being rejected: 1.) What kind of woman are you going for because if your dream woman is Gabrielle Union or Beyonce you might have to take it down a notch 2.) How do you come off? Trust me - my friends and I can smell stank attitude a mile away and it's not the women all of the time. Some of these men come off angry (or pompous) and it is a HUGE turnoff.

ebonygentleman said...

It's not a myth. I'm married. As my wife says, "You have to know what you are looking for!" :)

Guys get hurt because they don't know what they really want, and don't have to courage initally to go and get it. Don't B.S. around...just be assertive.

Women can smell insecurity in a guy from miles away.

The guy gets "spurned" and it's either fight or flight when it comes to his psyche. He can either learn from it or not.

And as for guys, you have to put your cards on the table when you first meet a lady. Tell her what you want, and if she can't deliver, move on, no offense.

That's is the secret that pimps (forgive the analogy) know about women. SOMEONE in the relationship has to be submissive for the whole thing to work. SOMEONE has to be assertive enough to lay down the law.

I mean, I'll never have Serena Williams, but I had to find someone with her physical "assets." I know it's sexist to some, but that's what I wanted, and I have it now. Never apologize to anyone for wanting what you find attractive.

I also wanted a lady that is respectful and intellegent. I'm not ashamed to be in public with er.....YET. :)

But I digress...there's someone for everyone. You just have to realize what you want and not settle for less. That perfect person for you is out there. Open your eyes and never back down. You'll be surprised at what you find.

EG

ebw-educated black woman said...

@Thembi-
I would add READ DAILY to the list. Whether it be a book, a magazine, a newspaper or a blog--read something. Expand your mind. Knowledge is power. (#5 on your list can be done via a good book.)
----------------------
ME: Have you read any good books lately?
THEM: *crickets*
ME: *walking away, dissapointed*

Wilma said...

Good list, not just for black women!

As ebw-educated black woman said... READ A LOT!

That's what has gotten me out of the slums, well that, and my mother enabling my reading-addiction.

Second, I'm not for complete abstinence before marriage, but if my husband and me ever have a daughter I would tell her to follow the example of her father, not the example set by me. I am my husband's first sex-partner because he chose to wait for someone special enough to him (he didn't intend to remain a virgin till that time because of religious dogmas, but because he wanted to feel good about his choice) and sometimes I envy him for that. I do have my regrets and I hope that if I raised a daughter she would take care not to regret any of her partners.
My advice with regards to men would be: chose someone who will be your friend as well as your boyfriend.

The Pretty Brown Girl said...

I like this list. I only take exception to the whole "act white" thing. I think I get what Ms. Thembi is trying to say in that, but I've had that insult hurled @ me way too many times in my life. I am so in love with being a black girl/woman who actually is educated and uses "$50 words" (a quote of one of my fmr. myspace blog readers). My ex-hubby would scream on me and say I was "acting white" when I spoke as I normally do (like he'd just met my ass...dummy). It was a stinging insult to me. White folks don't have a monopoly on speaking standard English and excelling in academia.

Other than that lil' personal stuff, these were awesome GirlLaws.

Anonymous said...

And nevern ever I mean never leave the house in your house shoes.
I work in a government office and you would not beleive the number of woman who come in in fluffy dirty house shoes.

and one tatoo is enought

Jusus

mwanga said...

Okay, I'm mad at the no house shoe & one tatoo comment, but it's real talk. Don't know when that got to be the hot thing, but I know I've never seen an aspiring brotha sporting a woman in public functions who is tatted up.

Just Marlon said...

Great list Thembi. I agree with them all.....even "Act White"

I don't think you meant it to be offensive. And you're right, we all know what it means. Whenever any black person speaks/acts any way other than hood this is what is hurled at them.

Just Marlon said...

Oh...and I was gonna say "#11: Look Ahead: In 10-15 years the thug will not be as appealing as the "nerd".....but I didn't want anyone to think I was bitter.

Saeed said...

The ideas in the post were good advice. However like many others I cringe at Number 7 Act White. I don't think it does any of us any good to conceede Being educated, articulate and hardworking to "being white". Also the "Keg Stand" thing is just as bad as the Pole dancing item. So let's be consistent.

Thembi said...

AB, thanks so much for entertaining my rantings. For those who liked it, thanks for the props!

So many more people had problems with this post over here than on my blog, most of which involved not knowing who this Thembi character actually is, so please allow me to respond...

For #2, it's funny how anyone objected to the idea of a blackgirl doing a keg stand. What IS that really? It's nothing crass unless you're wearing a skirt...the people who don't like the sound of it are EXACTLY the people whose opinion I'd caution young women not to care about. If you feel safe and sound you should always do what you want regardless of haters. To studpoet, theres no reason that being in a room full of white people or even white men has to be problematic! With my safety in mind at all times from everything from wearing a seatbelt to where I go, I do it all the time whenever it suits me. The idea that doing a keg stand makes you a rape target is a misconception that can only be held by someone who's never done one or been one of the only black women at an event - these arbitrary 'what ifs' are BS and what keeps us out of everything from frat parties to The Cabinet. Thanks to her foundation of good judgement about who she was with, Aaliyah made out just fine (personally I dont think that my feet belong above my head so I've never really even done a cartwheel but that mostly because I'm afraid of tipping over).

For #7, its funny that people took any offense. Like I said, you all knew what I meant, but somehow many folks took it actually mean TRY to be white or that only white people speak and act a certain way. That's for people who think that being an underachiever is cool or 'blacker'. Anyone with sense knows that there are too many actual white people who are underachieving failures to count, and too many black overachievers, as well, which make the use of the term in sincerity sheer nonsense. Maybe I need some sort of legitimacy to use the term "acting white," so I dont mind saying that if anyone has ever been told that they talk or act white, its ME - repeatedly since the age of 10 when I first went to a predominately black school, and to this day, even. Without knowing that about me I could kinda see why someone would be offended, but the reality is that so many young people still think that it's obvious that they should achieve and speak eloquently, yet only right up to that line where that achievement puts their 'blackness' into question. I figured that most people who read AB and WWTD have been told the same at some point because AB and I both attract the high IQ kids. The point was that "acting white" is a twisted term filled with hateration. If acting white means doing well and speaking properly, which, as I expected, everyone took it to mean, then that's what young ladies need to do regardless of the fact that other people think its wrong. In fact, if "acting white" is wrong, I don't wanna be right, and, especially, neither should anyone whose success and vocabulary is still in the early stages.

For #9, the responses were extra funny to me because I've always been at least 20 lbs overweight, which I guess y'all couldn't realize, and they sure don't sell my size at nobody's Express or half the time even H&M. But bottom line, it's just not healthy! Self-love is a wonderful thing, especially when we're exposed to so much pressure to be stupid-skinny. But this 'big and beautiful acceptance' stuff carries with it the idea that being overweight is ok. Yeah I'm big and beautiful but I also know that my bones and organs are being put under stress that will continue to make a difference in my health, and that's the part that's not cute!

As for warning women against thugs and such, I firmly believe that thats something that we all have to experience before we know what it means and therefore nothing to be preachy about. Kind of like sushi or country music, we just KNOW we don't like it before we even try it because of what we've heard - how childish is that? Not only are standards for mates a very personal thing, but people also aren't cut and dry like that - it's being devalued (Lady Laws #1 ande #6) that we need to avoid regardless of gender or race. Ebonygentleman's poor sister-in-law suffers from low self-esteem, and plenty of men suffer from the same (for example, my ex who admitted that he couldnt handle that I had more education than he had, so went and got himself a shift-workin' chick with a GED instead because it's waaaaay less threatening to his 'manhood'). It goes both ways, and neither niceguys or nicegirls should wish they were less nice or accomplished because of such weaklness in the opposite sex! So many men that I know preferred dim-witted underachieving women until they realized how unfullfilling it was and eventually started dealing with real women, and the same usually goes for young ladies and thuglife dudes. Niceguys always have their day, just like ivyleague ladies with minds of their own will someday find black men who are happy about it.

For the record, I have 3 tat's with no plan on stopping...no pawprints or dude's names, though ;)

Thanks again, AB!

cjames30082 said...

Act White. You know what, I would say don't act white. Act like yourself. If you're a little ghetto....be a little ghetto. Respectful but you can still be ghetto. I hate when folks try to be "different" say at work than what they are at home.
I have lots of white friends and I asked them if they are diffent at work than they are at home. Almost All of them said no. I posed the same question to my black friends and all of them said yes.

So if you want people to ACT white.......then be yourself; that's what white people do.

Dream said...

It's about time!

studpoet said...

Thembi,

While I understand your position. I have to say that as a woman who was college educated at a PWI (predominately white institution) and who works at a PWI and who has to, on occassion, socialize in PW (predominantely white) situations I'd say that I've had a substantial amount of experience being "the only" in a room full of white folks.

With that said, since I do work at a research one institution where I hear about and speak to young women of color on a daily basis who, for whatever reason, decided that keg stands or drinking of any kind in a room full of men (white, black, latino, asian etc.) was a good idea and then come to find out it was quite the opposite I think I can say reckless drinking in a room full of men is certainly not a good idea.

I think telling young women of color that, on one hand, they should stay off the pole but saying on the other, even in jest, that its okay to do a keg stand in a room full of frat boys (white or otherwise) is contradictory.

Sure casual drinking (at 21) at parties and such is a part of life. However, reckless drinking, which in my opinion includes keg stands, is just not recommended. It may seem fun at the moment, but it definitely marks you as 'that chick' and no one really wants to be 'that chick.'

But I have to say that just like guys often say that strippers are the equivalent to "can't make a 'ho' into a housewife" they often think the same thing about the keg stand girl or rather the party girl.

*shrug*

Do I wish it was different? Sure. But again if we say, "stay off the pole" then we should also say, "drink responsibly" and keg stands don't fit into that category.

Just my thoughts.

Thembi said...
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Thembi said...

Studpoet,

I almost wish that the Lady Law had been "do lots of kegstands," but it wasn't. If thats how you took it you may want to re-read. The advice to young women was to do the things that you want to do even if it doesnt seem like a 'blackgirl's place' to do them. Frankly, this advice suggests ignoring the judgement of people like yourself and other "what about your reputation?" types. In my opinon, fear of being "that chick" keeps women from being themselves and is just as bad as being afraid of "acting white". The very point was, "so what?". What are we supposed to do - pretend that we're not party girls, land a husband who wants that housewife, and only then let the party girl come out and be who we want to be? No woman should want a relationship like that or strategize to find a man at the expense of her own instincts.

As to reckless drinking - the suggestion that Im telling young girls to drink recklessly is completely without foundation, and furthermore inconsistent with (and contradictory to) everything I wrote, considering that the theme of the entire piece was having and maintaining a strong sense of self. You're certainly entitled to your opinion about what a keg stand "is" or "means", but your opinion is based on inexperience, not experience itself, and a heavy dose of your own imagination. I think that reading the phrase "filled with beefy white fratboys" has you in a tizzy caused by a mental picture that is your own. I think that picture allowed you to ignore the fact that I also said that Miss Aaliyah was not alone, in fact she was with a few black friends, at least one of them male. What's funny is that Aaliyah is a grown woman, not a little girl or in college. She knows how to handle alcohol and parties. She didnt pass out or get raped. She is over 21. These details don't change the purpose of that law so they were omitted, since "always be safe" is just not in my top 10 concerns for young women. Drinking with white men automatically equaling unsafe is so crazy sounding to me that I feel sorry that you see the world in such a limited way. I think a kegstand is ridiculous on so many levels. Aaliyah doesnt care what I or anyone else thinks and that's the very point.

The huge difference between selling your body for money and doing what you want, when you want, even if its a silly party ritual, is so clear to me that its hard for me to even see it otherwise.

Aaliyah said...

Studpoet,

Hello, I am Aaliyah. The Aaliyah Thembi referenced in her "Lady Laws". First, let me say WOW!!! I really find it unfortunate that black ladies can have such a myopic view of their social lives. I am a Harvard-educated black woman from the South and I live my life with the desire to not cheat myself out of the grand experience that life should be. Automatically equating white frat boy parties with danger or a keg-stand-beer-drinking woman as a rape victim is just as ludicrous as equating black men with prison life or black women with welfare-queen status. The entire point of even mentioning my little keg stand experience is to let ladies know that they should NEVER have hesitation about doing anything for the sole reason that "its not appropriate for black girls". I happened to be in the company of friends, a couple of black friends, close white girl friends, and a bunch of white guys who I know to be fun-loving and respectful gents. The take-away is not to put yourself in danger, but to not encumber your spirit with dangerous close-minded notions such as those you propose. Black ladies should be free to be whoever they want to be. That's all.

your girl,
aaliyah

studpoet said...

Thembi & Aaliyah,

Well, to each her own. I am all for, young women of color doing things that are out of "our" ordinary. I don't know like, digging Duran Duran or playing RPG's at comic book stores. So I totally got your point.

I suppose my beef is that we are saying on one hand, "stay off the pole" and on the other condoning an activity that is reckless in its own behavior.

And you are both right, I've never done a keg stand. However, I know what they are and I've seen them done.

I'm not really "in a tizzy" over the white male aspect of the statement only that as a woman, in particular, a woman of color, in a position of vulnerability just doesn't make good common sense. Whether that woman is in a room full of all white men, all black men, all latino men etc. Common sense is what keeps you safe. Now I did read that Aaliyah was accompanied by a friend but is the behavior any less reckless? I don't think so.

But hey to each our own, however, we don't have to try and cut at each other personally because we disagree. That probably should be one of the things on the list. Just because a sista disagrees with your thoughts doesn't mean that your response has to "feel" or be read as a personal attack. If you, Aaliyah, thought I was attacking you personally, I was not. I was merely stating what I have seen happen to young women who behave recklessly as well as what young men have to say about them.

Again, as I said before, I liked your "lady laws" including what seemed the most controversial the "Act White" statement. But I just think if we are going to say "stay off the pole" then we probably shouldn't use keg stands as an example of doing something outside of the "young black woman box."

Just something to think about.

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